22-01-2018, 06:57 PM
U avgustu 1941 je od SIS odredjen za regrutovanje , posle cistke u SOE. Bio je tada sef jugoslovenske sekcije. KOmplikovanija je to prica, to je projekat SIS jos sa pocetka rata i deo vece strattegije koja je potom prihvacena. Da, pretezno su regrutovani "levicari", jer se smatralo da su oni najpogodniji za sabotazne stvari i uopste za aktivnosti "pete kolone" u okupiranim zemljama.
Nije, oni su pronalazeni i upucivani na obuku po kampovima tokom 1942.
Kairska soe je primila oko 40-50 regruta jugoslovenskog porekla (hrvata), komunista ili vrlo bliskih komunistima.
https://www.airbornehistorycanada.com/th...gence.html
However while it appears that Churchill and the Foreign Office were heading in one direction regarding Yugoslavia, Bailey and D/H Section (Yugoslav Section at SOE Cairo) proceeded in another, " The policy of SOE in SE Europe is to prepare a revolt of the Balkan peoples ( Greeks, Yugoslavs, Bulgarians, Albanians, Romanians and Hungarians) against the Axis forces and the local pro-Axis elements collaborating with them (the Governments and supporters of General TSOLAKOGLU [Greece], General NEDIC [Serbia], M.PAVELIC [Croatia], King BORIS [Bulgaria], Marshal ANTONESCU [Romania] and Admiral HORTHY [Hungary])...In the light of experience acquired in the period previous to the Axis occupation of the Balkans, and after due consideration of the information subsequently received, SOE's specialists in Balkan affairs are of the opinion that the masses of peasants and industrial workers constitute the most suitable potentially revolutionary elements in the different countries of S.E. Europe...it should be remembered that the conception of Balkan unity has long been familiar to the more progressive political leaders especially in Yugoslavia and that the prospect of playing the leading role in a new and greater Balkan order is likely to appeal to the imagination of all but the most reactionary of our supporters. In the same way it may be argued that the fact that our policy is primarily based on the support of Agrarian and Left Wing elements may alienate potential allies among the bourgeoisie. This is no doubt true but it is felt that the risk must be taken in view of the fact that the peasantry constitute some 80% of the population of the Balkan peninsula and that with the exception of certain bourgeois elements in Serbia and Greece, that majority of our sympathizers in the middle classes are not considered likely to give active expressions to their sentiments...There remains however the possibility that HMG may one day be called upon to implement this declaration and the question therefore arises whether Balkan unity is in the interests of the British Empire. It is beyond the scale of this memorandum to consider this question in detail but certainly the arguments in favour of Balkan unity as a British interest are strong." (NOTE: UKNA, HS5/146, SOE Balkans No.2. Top Level Planning - Istanbul HQ - Planning & Organization of SOE Activities - General 1940-41. SOE POLICY FOR SOUTH EASTERN EUROPE, D.P.A. PAPER No. 2.)
In short, Bailey’s opinion was that since all peasants/farmers and workers must automatically be leftists or Communists only by harnessing their numbers could Balkan unity be ensured. D/H Section continues to state that they desired to, "...guarantee that the peoples of South Eastern Europe shall be governed in accordance with the principles of democracy. (Political democracy)...To guarantee that the wealth of South Eastern Europe shall be developed in accordance with the interests of the masses of the Balkan peoples. (Social Democracy)...To guarantee the Balkan peoples against external aggression until such times as they may be judged ready to stand alone.” (NOTE: IBID) However it is obvious by the reactions of the peoples of these nations that Bailey was dead wrong. In fact most of the people were actually either more moderately left or more conservative. While Communists usually assume that agrarian and industrial workers must all be Communists, in truth they were very much aware of the threat of Communism to their sovereignty. Wartime intelligence statistic's make it very clear that Communist's were actually in the minority in Eastern Europe. The question is, did Bailey know this at this time and was he out to implement his own policies?
In order for SOE's D/H Section and Bailey's plan to begin, they needed men to implement it. Like all other SOE recruiting schemes, it was quickly determined that refugee and immigrant populations in Britain would not be enough. They immediately looked to their Commonwealth and more covertly to countries in the rest of the America's to fill their needs. The author of Camp X, SOE School for Spies David Stafford published in 1986 states that correspondence he had with Christopher M. Woods, SOE advisor at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, indicates that the idea to recruit personnel for British intelligence in the Americas had existed as far back as the beginning of 1941 when SOE representative Colonel Jeffrey Vickers VC travelled to New York to meet William Stephenson. He was a wealthy Canadian industrialist who became head of the British Secret Intelligence Service in the America’s. Formally operating under the guise of the Passport Control Office in New York, it became known as British Security Co-Ordination or BSC. The resulting directive penned on 15 February charged BSC to, "establish an SOE network throughout Latin America, to recruit likely SOE agents in the United States and other American countries, to help influence public opinion in the United States in a pro-allied direction, to make contact with various European refugee and exile movements in the New World, and to help create secret communications channels for SOE networks." The idea to build a training facility in Canada also came out of these discussions. (Note: Stafford, David. Camp X SOE School for Spies. Lester and Orpen Dennys, 1986. Directive, Hyde Papers, 15 February 1941. Chapter 2. To Impress the Americans, pgs. 28-29.)
Види 1942 овсте није пије воде.....НИКАКО!
Како зашто секције Д енглеске обавештајне службе су веч имали комунисте под њихвој руци пре рата......и је био део њиховог генерална стабилизације, што је карактеристике њихове стране политике, што лично одговора њима, или те компоненти ко тамо влада.
(NOTE: UKNA, HS5/146, SOE Balkans No.2. Top Level Planning - Istanbul HQ - Planning & Organization of SOE Activities - General 1940-41. SOE POLICY FOR SOUTH EASTERN EUROPE, D.P.A. PAPER No. 2.)
Тако овај планински документ идендификује сељаци и радници у фабрици као њиховог главни отпор.
Рако чисто бих волео да видим одакле земљо-радничка странка добија свој новац, и где је њена огнишства?
Због су идентификовали средину што је била у принципу Богомољна и за Краља.......бероватно оних су то знали.
Одакле онда енглези да вечином народ су идеолиштичко ”Левичари”, и кроз нека левичарске иделогије осећају да бих могли дати отпору немцима.
Тако из саме концепције енглези су били настројени КОМУНИСТИ ко били забрањени као политичка група, а камоли као војна групација!
Nije, oni su pronalazeni i upucivani na obuku po kampovima tokom 1942.
Kairska soe je primila oko 40-50 regruta jugoslovenskog porekla (hrvata), komunista ili vrlo bliskih komunistima.
https://www.airbornehistorycanada.com/th...gence.html
However while it appears that Churchill and the Foreign Office were heading in one direction regarding Yugoslavia, Bailey and D/H Section (Yugoslav Section at SOE Cairo) proceeded in another, " The policy of SOE in SE Europe is to prepare a revolt of the Balkan peoples ( Greeks, Yugoslavs, Bulgarians, Albanians, Romanians and Hungarians) against the Axis forces and the local pro-Axis elements collaborating with them (the Governments and supporters of General TSOLAKOGLU [Greece], General NEDIC [Serbia], M.PAVELIC [Croatia], King BORIS [Bulgaria], Marshal ANTONESCU [Romania] and Admiral HORTHY [Hungary])...In the light of experience acquired in the period previous to the Axis occupation of the Balkans, and after due consideration of the information subsequently received, SOE's specialists in Balkan affairs are of the opinion that the masses of peasants and industrial workers constitute the most suitable potentially revolutionary elements in the different countries of S.E. Europe...it should be remembered that the conception of Balkan unity has long been familiar to the more progressive political leaders especially in Yugoslavia and that the prospect of playing the leading role in a new and greater Balkan order is likely to appeal to the imagination of all but the most reactionary of our supporters. In the same way it may be argued that the fact that our policy is primarily based on the support of Agrarian and Left Wing elements may alienate potential allies among the bourgeoisie. This is no doubt true but it is felt that the risk must be taken in view of the fact that the peasantry constitute some 80% of the population of the Balkan peninsula and that with the exception of certain bourgeois elements in Serbia and Greece, that majority of our sympathizers in the middle classes are not considered likely to give active expressions to their sentiments...There remains however the possibility that HMG may one day be called upon to implement this declaration and the question therefore arises whether Balkan unity is in the interests of the British Empire. It is beyond the scale of this memorandum to consider this question in detail but certainly the arguments in favour of Balkan unity as a British interest are strong." (NOTE: UKNA, HS5/146, SOE Balkans No.2. Top Level Planning - Istanbul HQ - Planning & Organization of SOE Activities - General 1940-41. SOE POLICY FOR SOUTH EASTERN EUROPE, D.P.A. PAPER No. 2.)
In short, Bailey’s opinion was that since all peasants/farmers and workers must automatically be leftists or Communists only by harnessing their numbers could Balkan unity be ensured. D/H Section continues to state that they desired to, "...guarantee that the peoples of South Eastern Europe shall be governed in accordance with the principles of democracy. (Political democracy)...To guarantee that the wealth of South Eastern Europe shall be developed in accordance with the interests of the masses of the Balkan peoples. (Social Democracy)...To guarantee the Balkan peoples against external aggression until such times as they may be judged ready to stand alone.” (NOTE: IBID) However it is obvious by the reactions of the peoples of these nations that Bailey was dead wrong. In fact most of the people were actually either more moderately left or more conservative. While Communists usually assume that agrarian and industrial workers must all be Communists, in truth they were very much aware of the threat of Communism to their sovereignty. Wartime intelligence statistic's make it very clear that Communist's were actually in the minority in Eastern Europe. The question is, did Bailey know this at this time and was he out to implement his own policies?
In order for SOE's D/H Section and Bailey's plan to begin, they needed men to implement it. Like all other SOE recruiting schemes, it was quickly determined that refugee and immigrant populations in Britain would not be enough. They immediately looked to their Commonwealth and more covertly to countries in the rest of the America's to fill their needs. The author of Camp X, SOE School for Spies David Stafford published in 1986 states that correspondence he had with Christopher M. Woods, SOE advisor at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, indicates that the idea to recruit personnel for British intelligence in the Americas had existed as far back as the beginning of 1941 when SOE representative Colonel Jeffrey Vickers VC travelled to New York to meet William Stephenson. He was a wealthy Canadian industrialist who became head of the British Secret Intelligence Service in the America’s. Formally operating under the guise of the Passport Control Office in New York, it became known as British Security Co-Ordination or BSC. The resulting directive penned on 15 February charged BSC to, "establish an SOE network throughout Latin America, to recruit likely SOE agents in the United States and other American countries, to help influence public opinion in the United States in a pro-allied direction, to make contact with various European refugee and exile movements in the New World, and to help create secret communications channels for SOE networks." The idea to build a training facility in Canada also came out of these discussions. (Note: Stafford, David. Camp X SOE School for Spies. Lester and Orpen Dennys, 1986. Directive, Hyde Papers, 15 February 1941. Chapter 2. To Impress the Americans, pgs. 28-29.)
Види 1942 овсте није пије воде.....НИКАКО!
Како зашто секције Д енглеске обавештајне службе су веч имали комунисте под њихвој руци пре рата......и је био део њиховог генерална стабилизације, што је карактеристике њихове стране политике, што лично одговора њима, или те компоненти ко тамо влада.
(NOTE: UKNA, HS5/146, SOE Balkans No.2. Top Level Planning - Istanbul HQ - Planning & Organization of SOE Activities - General 1940-41. SOE POLICY FOR SOUTH EASTERN EUROPE, D.P.A. PAPER No. 2.)
Тако овај планински документ идендификује сељаци и радници у фабрици као њиховог главни отпор.
Рако чисто бих волео да видим одакле земљо-радничка странка добија свој новац, и где је њена огнишства?
Због су идентификовали средину што је била у принципу Богомољна и за Краља.......бероватно оних су то знали.
Одакле онда енглези да вечином народ су идеолиштичко ”Левичари”, и кроз нека левичарске иделогије осећају да бих могли дати отпору немцима.
Тако из саме концепције енглези су били настројени КОМУНИСТИ ко били забрањени као политичка група, а камоли као војна групација!
